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Acebanner Full Member Offline Posts: 123 Location: New York City Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2008	Windows 11 and Sesame Mar 31^st, 2023 at 11:23am	Print Post
	Hello everyone, longtime user of Sesame here with a situation: I have new computers in my office (running a client/server setup using Sesame 2.5.3). Copied over the C:\Sesame folders to the new PCs running Windows 11, updated the shortcut properties and Sesame application opens on client computers, but I am faced with the message: "Some or all of the programming in this form has failed to compile. No event programming will run." Does anyone have any tips on how to make Sesame run on Windows 11? Am I missed a library of some kind? Should I update Sesame? I'm a little scared to update on the basis that perhaps some of my old programming may stop working as intended. EDIT: The Main Menu that I created for my application appears and I am able to hit the various buttons that open up forms, but the data is not accessible and even the top menu functions of Sesame itself are greyed out. Help, please.


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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: Windows 11 and Sesame Reply #1 - Mar 31^st, 2023 at 2:00pm	Print Post
	Should you update? Absolutely! Are you missing a library? No but you probably have a bad path to an include file. That error message means that your programming is failing to compile. You will need to open your form in Sesame Designer, on a new computer that is having the issue, open the program editor and click Test->Test program. It will tell you where the error is. It is likely "Unknown Identifier" and one of the identifiers that is in the Sbasic_Include.sbas file. If it is, check your include statement. If it's just Code #Include "sbasic_include.sbas" then make sure that the sbasic_include.sbas file exists in the directory that is specified in the Start In properties of the Sesame Shortcut. Quote: ..even the top menu functions of Sesame itself are greyed out. They are likely greyed out as a result of programming disabling them. -Ray

	Raymond Yoxall Consulting ray.yoxall@gmail.com ryoxall@lantica.com Sesame Applications, Design and Support
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Acebanner Full Member Offline Posts: 123 Location: New York City Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2008	Re: Windows 11 and Sesame Reply #2 - Mar 31^st, 2023 at 2:46pm	Print Post
	Ray the Reaper wrote on Mar 31^st, 2023 at 2:00pm: Should you update? Absolutely! What's the likelihood that my programming will be affected by updating from 2.5.3 to the latest version? Would you recommend that I perform the update on a duplicate version? Ray the Reaper wrote on Mar 31^st, 2023 at 2:00pm: You will need to open your form in Sesame Designer, on a new computer that is having the issue, open the program editor and click Test->Test program. It will tell you where the error is. It is likely "Unknown Identifier" and one of the identifiers that is in the Sbasic_Include.sbas file. If it is, check your include statement. If it's just Code #Include "sbasic_include.sbas" then make sure that the sbasic_include.sbas file exists in the directory that is specified in the Start In properties of the Sesame Shortcut. -Ray Ok, so, because its a client/server setup, I should make a copy of my existing database (after shutting down the server) and place that copy on this new computer, then open it in Sesame Designer and run a test on the programming there. From looking at the /Sesame directory on the new PC the sbasic_include.sbas file is present. I was able to open some of the sample databases in Sesame Designer and the test of the programming yielded no errors. I will report back on the test of the main application. Thanks so much for the quick response, Ray.


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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: Windows 11 and Sesame Reply #3 - Mar 31^st, 2023 at 2:55pm	Print Post
	Acebanner wrote on Mar 31^st, 2023 at 2:46pm: What's the likelihood that my programming will be affected by updating from 2.5.3 to the latest version? Would you recommend that I perform the update on a duplicate version? It is unlikely that the upgrade will affect your programming and cause it not to work but we always recommend making a backup before any update just on the off chance something doesn't work. Quote: Ok, so, because its a client/server setup, I should make a copy of my existing database (after shutting down the server) and place that copy on this new computer, then open it in Sesame Designer and run a test on the programming there. Or run Sesame Designer as a client. Just change your existing shortcut to run sdesigner.exe instead of sesame.exe. Leave everything else(the switches and the start in) the same. Quote: From looking at the /Sesame directory on the new PC the sbasic_include.sbas file is present. I was able to open some of the sample databases in Sesame Designer and the test of the programming yielded no errors. I will report back on the test of the main application. Yes the samples will compile fine as the error is in the code in your database. What is the Start In set to on the Sesame Client shortcut? -Ray

	Raymond Yoxall Consulting ray.yoxall@gmail.com ryoxall@lantica.com Sesame Applications, Design and Support
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Acebanner Full Member Offline Posts: 123 Location: New York City Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2008	Re: Windows 11 and Sesame Reply #4 - Mar 31^st, 2023 at 3:09pm	Print Post
	Quote: What is the Start In set to on the Sesame Client shortcut? Start In is set to: C:\Sesame2\Program So I copied the application over to a new directory called C:\Sesame2-test and opened up the database file in SDesigner. Running a test on the programming yields a lot of errors, so many that it ends with "too many errors to display". I copied the sbas_... file into the C:\Sesame2-test directory and tried again, same problem. Here's a screen cap of errors shown from the main menu of the application.

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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: Windows 11 and Sesame Reply #5 - Mar 31^st, 2023 at 3:16pm	Print Post
	Acebanner wrote on Mar 31^st, 2023 at 3:09pm: Start In is set to: C:\Sesame2\Program It should be C:\Sesame2. That'll fix it. Programming Errors can cascade which is why you always deal with the first error first. In this case it is, like i guessed, Unknown Identifier. Sesame doesn't know what "search_mode_and" is. Looking at your include statement there is no directory specified for the .sbas file so Sesame/Designer is going to look for it in it's Working Directory. The Working Directory is set by the Start In of the shortcut. So in this case, Sesame is looking for sbasic_include.sbas in the "C:\Sesame2\Program" directory, it's not there so it can't include it so the programming environment has no idea about any of the defines in it. -Ray

	Raymond Yoxall Consulting ray.yoxall@gmail.com ryoxall@lantica.com Sesame Applications, Design and Support
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Acebanner Full Member Offline Posts: 123 Location: New York City Joined: Jan 23^rd, 2008	Re: Windows 11 and Sesame Reply #6 - Apr 3^rd, 2023 at 4:46pm	Print Post
	Ray, that fixed it! Thanks so much for the quick, on-point help.


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