Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2 3  Send Topic Send Topic Print Print
Very Hot Topic (More than 25 Replies) Multiple services, no application (Read 8473 times)
Infinity
Senior Member
Members
*****
Offline


Diagonally parked in a
parallel dimension

Posts: 1290
Location: Massachusetts
Joined: May 27th, 2005
Multiple services, no application
Sep 25th, 2007 at 8:22pm
Print Post Print Post  
Earlier today my boss was trying to open Sesame, and nothing started up.  After clicking the icon several times the program finally opened.  I learned of this when I tried to get into Sesame myself, and was bounced out because there were too many users.  I checked the server admin and saw that his machine had 4 clients open.

I went to his system and shut down the open Sesame window, then opened Task Manager.  Sesame did not appear on the open app list, but Sesame.exe was listed 3 times on the services list.  I shut down each service with Task Manager and tested his system, and of course had no problem opening Sesame.  I've told him to alert me if it happens again, where he clicks on the startup icon and the program doesn't start.

Any idea what could cause this to happen, and advice on how to prevent it in the future?
  

**
Captain Infinity
Back to top
IP Logged
 
proudpoppy
Full Member
Members
***
Offline


Do What ??

Posts: 420
Location: South Carolina
Joined: Apr 7th, 2004
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #1 - Sep 26th, 2007 at 7:29pm
Print Post Print Post  
Usually when that happens around here the problem is 99.9% lack of patience, the computer's cpu is busy with task only Mr.M knows what its doing, or another problem would be a slow down on the network, which goes back to lack of patience, each time the icon is clicked it minimizes sesame and opens another episode, I've noticed users coming from a typing background "and bosses" are the worst, if it don't happen instantly click again, again, again ..........  Undecided
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Infinity
Senior Member
Members
*****
Offline


Diagonally parked in a
parallel dimension

Posts: 1290
Location: Massachusetts
Joined: May 27th, 2005
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #2 - Oct 2nd, 2007 at 3:45pm
Print Post Print Post  
It happened again today, with two more users, one of them being myself:  Click on Sesame icon, nothing happens, no interface, nothing in the taskbar or tray, nothing.  Open up Task Manager, no application on the list, but sesame.exe is running in services.  Sesame Server sees the workstation as connected, but the user is unable to interface the program at all.

Shut down all services, rebooted the machines.  Same situation.

Removed the -client switch from the startup icon, and Sesame starts up sweet as you please, but of course unable to connect to the server's apps.

So I kicked everybody off, shut down Sesame Server, ran the batch file which runs Sunlock on all my apps and starts up Sesame Server, and we're back in business, so far so good.

Something funky going on with Sesame Server, it seems, but I have no idea what.
  

**
Captain Infinity
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Hammer
YaBB Administrator
Lanticans
*****
Offline


Fire bad. Tree pretty.

Posts: 3436
Location: Ohio
Joined: Nov 22nd, 2002
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #3 - Oct 2nd, 2007 at 3:59pm
Print Post Print Post  
Scott,

If this happens again, check Task Manager on the server. See if it is very CPU busy or network pegged.
If you leave the client alone for a little while, does it eventually pop up a "Failed to Connect" message?
  

- Hammer
The plural of anecdote is not data.
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Infinity
Senior Member
Members
*****
Offline


Diagonally parked in a
parallel dimension

Posts: 1290
Location: Massachusetts
Joined: May 27th, 2005
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #4 - Oct 2nd, 2007 at 4:17pm
Print Post Print Post  
Quote:
If this happens again, check Task Manager on the server. See if it is very CPU busy or network pegged. 

Will do.  This sounds like a possibility; network traffic has been heavy here today.

Quote:
If you leave the client alone for a little while, does it eventually pop up a "Failed to Connect" message?

I haven't seen that yet but will watch for it and I'll wait it out and see what happens if if it happens to me again.  If and when it happens to someone else here it's always a matter of life or death that it be fixed immediately.  I should bring a squirt gun in to shoot these folks, cool 'em down.

Thanks for your help Erika.
  

**
Captain Infinity
Back to top
IP Logged
 
proudpoppy
Full Member
Members
***
Offline


Do What ??

Posts: 420
Location: South Carolina
Joined: Apr 7th, 2004
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #5 - Oct 8th, 2007 at 1:27pm
Print Post Print Post  
It has happened to me twice this morning, I can duplicate it. Angry Angry
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Hammer
YaBB Administrator
Lanticans
*****
Offline


Fire bad. Tree pretty.

Posts: 3436
Location: Ohio
Joined: Nov 22nd, 2002
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #6 - Oct 8th, 2007 at 1:36pm
Print Post Print Post  
proudpoppy wrote on Oct 8th, 2007 at 1:27pm:
It has happened to me twice this morning, I can duplicate it.

Can you give us steps to duplicate it, so we can try to make it happen here?
  

- Hammer
The plural of anecdote is not data.
Back to top
IP Logged
 
proudpoppy
Full Member
Members
***
Offline


Do What ??

Posts: 420
Location: South Carolina
Joined: Apr 7th, 2004
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #7 - Oct 8th, 2007 at 2:28pm
Print Post Print Post  
The clicking on the icon and nothing happens has happened twice but I can't make it do it at will, but I will continue to chase it down, after this happened the db file freezes Sesame on exit this I can duplicate and its on its way to support, Since it happened twice this morning already, odds are it will happen again, as soon as I get the proper steps I get them to you.  Wink
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
proudpoppy
Full Member
Members
***
Offline


Do What ??

Posts: 420
Location: South Carolina
Joined: Apr 7th, 2004
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #8 - Oct 8th, 2007 at 6:55pm
Print Post Print Post  
Its now in that mode, click until your heart is content and no interface. I will be happy to let tech support do a remote session if needed to the machine that its happening on.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Ben
Lantica Support
*****
Offline



Posts: 218
Joined: Apr 7th, 2005
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #9 - Oct 8th, 2007 at 7:01pm
Print Post Print Post  
I just sent you an email with the GoToMeeting information.
-Ben
  
Back to top
IP Logged
 
proudpoppy
Full Member
Members
***
Offline


Do What ??

Posts: 420
Location: South Carolina
Joined: Apr 7th, 2004
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #10 - Oct 8th, 2007 at 7:06pm
Print Post Print Post  
To create this problem I did  the following.

In client/Server mode::

First M/C is the server/client, server and client running application open.

On the client m/c open the application.

Then on the client m/c go to file and then exit.

The client m/c will freeze up.

Go to the Server/Client M/C and the client will be froze.

Ctl-Alt-Del

Then click Sesame client icon, no interface will appear, but it will be in processes.

No interface until server is shutdown, restarted and application unlocked.
  
Back to top
 
IP Logged
 
Infinity
Senior Member
Members
*****
Offline


Diagonally parked in a
parallel dimension

Posts: 1290
Location: Massachusetts
Joined: May 27th, 2005
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #11 - Oct 9th, 2007 at 10:45am
Print Post Print Post  
Robert,
As you can imagine, I'm following this closely.  What does M/C mean?
  

**
Captain Infinity
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Hammer
YaBB Administrator
Lanticans
*****
Offline


Fire bad. Tree pretty.

Posts: 3436
Location: Ohio
Joined: Nov 22nd, 2002
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #12 - Oct 9th, 2007 at 11:08am
Print Post Print Post  
FYI: We're looking into this. We got on Robert's system yesterday while it was happening, so we do have some information and are working on tracking this down.
  

- Hammer
The plural of anecdote is not data.
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Ray the Reaper
Global Moderator
Members
Lantica Support
*****
Offline


The One & The Only

Posts: 2480
Joined: Aug 20th, 2003
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #13 - Oct 9th, 2007 at 2:12pm
Print Post Print Post  
The problem at least in Robert's case was that there was a change in 2.0.3 in the way that the Daemon mode of Sesame Server deals with inactive clients. This is what appears to be causing the problem that he is having. The solution, until the next release, is to run the Sesame Server with the GUI showing.

Scott - Are you running the Server in daemon mode?

-Ray
  

Raymond Yoxall Consulting
ray.yoxall@gmail.com
ryoxall@lantica.com
Sesame Applications, Design and Support
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Infinity
Senior Member
Members
*****
Offline


Diagonally parked in a
parallel dimension

Posts: 1290
Location: Massachusetts
Joined: May 27th, 2005
Re: Multiple services, no application
Reply #14 - Oct 9th, 2007 at 2:47pm
Print Post Print Post  
Quote:
Scott - Are you running the Server in daemon mode?

No sir, nor am I running 2.0.3 yet.
  

**
Captain Infinity
Back to top
IP Logged
 
Page Index Toggle Pages: [1] 2 3 
Send Topic Send Topic Print Print