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Mar 8th, 2005 at 3:59pm
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Ok, time to get the program working on all machines.
We have a wireless network, running XpSP2.
So no machine is a designated server. I do use one machine for most of the serious files though, so I plan to call that my server for the purposes of this operation.
The problem, is that although I copy the comman line exactly as it is in the PDF (substituting my computer's name), Windows says the location does not exist. if I remove the "-server servername" all is well. I checked, and I apear to be using the right servername.
Is it possible that because the installation is in the 'shared' directory that there is a problem?
  
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Re: Network issues
Reply #1 - Mar 8th, 2005 at 4:29pm
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Hi Bob,

If the target has quotes in it, the -server servername has to go after the quotes.

ex. The original is
"C:\Program Files\Sesame\Program\Sesame.exe"

The modified needs to be
"C:\Program Files\Sesame\Program\Sesame.exe" -server MyServer

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Reply #2 - Mar 8th, 2005 at 4:35pm
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Ok, got the server up and running.
It apparently does not like the program being in the "shared"
directory.

The server started, but the program did not. Do I need to create a separate icon for the program?
I was thinking of putting the servers' icon in the startup directory.
Also, there seems to be no option other than 'emergency shutdown' to close the server operation.
We generally shut the office computers off each night. Will this be an issue?
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 8th, 2005 at 4:47pm
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Yes you would need to create another icon to start up a sesame client.

There is a section in the book that covers how to properly shut down the server. It starts at the bottom of page 420 and ends on page 423. The only time you should ever click emergency shutdown is in the case of an actual emergency, or if you can't connect a client to shut down the server.

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Reply #4 - Mar 8th, 2005 at 7:13pm
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If i'm running Sesame on the server machine, the tabs for server shut down do not appear in the admin section. The tab does appear on the client
Does the server have to be shut down from a client machine?
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 8th, 2005 at 7:42pm
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Sesame server has to be shut down from a Sesame client, But that Client does not have to be on another machine.

One thing that I find useful is to have a Sesame Client icon on the Server computer. This is useful not only for shutting down the server but also for unlocking applications.

To run a Sesame client on the same computer as Sesame Server, copy the icon that starts up the Sesame server, and change the -server to -client.
ex.
c:\sesame\program\sesame.exe -client MyServer

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Reply #6 - Mar 8th, 2005 at 10:07pm
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Thanks, good idea, I'll be doing that.
What exactly happens in someone shuts down the server machine when the client has a file open. It's gonna happen.  Roll Eyes
If all it does is leave the file locked, I can deal with it.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 8th, 2005 at 10:56pm
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What exactly happens in someone shuts down the server machine when the client has a file open. It's gonna happen.  Roll Eyes
If all it does is leave the file locked, I can deal with it.


It depends how they shut it down. If they use the normal commands from the admin interface, the application files will be unlocked, and other users will be warned and optionally allowed to finish up what they are doing.

If they use Emergency Shutdown, the application files will almost certainly be locked. If they use Emergency shutdown and another user is in the middle of a lengthy operation, their operation will be suddenly interrupted without warning. The purpose of the Emergency Shutdown button is to have a quick response if the power fails and you are running on a small UPS (clocks-a-ticking!), or if someone is trying to break in on an internet connection left open, or a renegade user is running a destructive mass update.

Emergency Shutdown should only be used in an emergency. So if the computer is actually on fire (not just smoldering a little)... Otherwise, leave it alone.
  
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Reply #8 - Mar 9th, 2005 at 6:05pm
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We have no UPS  Shocked I guess it's time for some research.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 9th, 2005 at 7:01pm
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A UPS is not required, but very recommended, especially on the server computer.
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 10th, 2005 at 9:40pm
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Sesame server has to be shut down from a Sesame client, But that Client does not have to be on another machine.

One thing that I find useful is to have a Sesame Client icon on the Server computer. This is useful not only for shutting down the server but also for unlocking applications.

To run a Sesame client on the same computer as Sesame Server, copy the icon that starts up the Sesame server, and change the -server to -client.
ex.
c:\sesame\program\sesame.exe -client MyServer

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One little problem with this, it costs an extra licence to pull it off, or so it seems.
I have Sesame running on the client machine, and I try to start it on the server, and I get a too many clients warning.
I don't want to use a licence on this machine, as I have one more client to set up.
  
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Reply #11 - Mar 10th, 2005 at 10:03pm
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One little problem with this, it costs an extra licence to pull it off, or so it seems.
I have Sesame running on the client machine, and I try to start it on the server, and I get a too many clients warning.
I don't want to use a licence on this machine, as I have one more client to set up.


You can shut down the server from any client, provided you have the Server Admin password.
  
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Reply #12 - Mar 10th, 2005 at 10:06pm
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Hello Bob,

You do not have to have the client on the server running all the time. It is just there so you can bring it up to shut down sesame server rather than walk across the office to another computer bring up sesame there so you can shut down the server.

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Reply #13 - Mar 18th, 2005 at 4:18pm
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I can't get three computers running at the same time.
I have purchased the program, and two additional licences.
Where could i be going wrong?  ???
  
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Reply #14 - Mar 18th, 2005 at 4:32pm
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Hello,

Close down the Sesame Server and all clients that you have open right now.
Restart the Server. Connections should say 0 of 3.  Let us know if it does not.
Go to another computer, one that you are sure can connect.
Bring up a Sesame Client.
Go to the Server Computer.
Server should now say 1 of 3. Let us know if it does not.
Go back to the Same computer.
Bring up another Sesame Client.
Go to the Server Computer.
Server should now say 2 of 3. Let us know if it does not.
Go back to the Same computer.
Bring up another Sesame Client.
Go to the Server Computer.
Server should now say 3 of 3. Let us know if it does not.

If the server does say three of three and you have three clients open on that one computer, then close all three clients.
Check that the server goes back to 0 of 3.
If it does try the steps above on a different computer.

Once you have checked every computer and everything seems fine and the server is back down to 0 of 3 connections.
Bring up Sesame on the first computer
Server should say 1 of 3
Bring up Sesame on the second computer
Server should say 2 of 3
Bring up Sesame on the first computer
Server should say 3 of 3

Let us know where in the steps you are failing to connect.

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