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Jun 30th, 2004 at 1:21am
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Just wanted to mention that I crashed hard today while I tried to open a .db file with designer. (To then save over my existing .dsr file)

The db was in use and in the middle of a programmed export when designer tried to open the db file.

Hopefully a future version will take care of this since we cannot monitor what users are doing on a db when we try to open to modify a .db that is in use remotely.

Also, users are becoming annoyed by the way the curser can jump around to different LE's when simply trying to f10 through several records.

It seems that randomly the curser will leave the LE it was last in and sometimes jump to a different tab page when the next record appears on the screen. We feel it should reside in the LE it was last in prior to the record change.

Hopefully these minor bugs are on the Lantica Hit list.

Thanks for listening, as always.

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Reply #1 - Jun 30th, 2004 at 10:37am
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Just wanted to mention that I crashed hard today while I tried to open a .db file with designer. (To then save over my existing .dsr file)

The db was in use and in the middle of a programmed export when designer tried to open the db file.

Hopefully a future version will take care of this since we cannot monitor what users are doing on a db when we try to open to modify a .db that is in use remotely.


You shouldn't have to. We'll look into this and try to determine why this would be a problem.

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Also, users are becoming annoyed by the way the curser can jump around to different LE's when simply trying to f10 through several records.

It seems that randomly the curser will leave the LE it was last in and sometimes jump to a different tab page when the next record appears on the screen. We feel it should reside in the LE it was last in prior to the record change.


Some people agree. Others think it should always pop to the first element on the form. Others think it should pop to the first element on the form, but only if you are adding a new record. Etc... Smiley

We'll see if tab pages are causing some sort of odd focus behavior.
  
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Reply #2 - Jun 30th, 2004 at 12:08pm
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Some people agree. Others think it should always pop to the first element on the form. Others think it should pop to the first element on the form, but only if you are adding a new record. Etc... Smiley


I can not say what method is correct however whatever method is selected to be the standard should always be consistent. It seems to behave randomly especially in regards to the tab  pages.   
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 30th, 2004 at 12:23pm
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I can not say what method is correct however whatever method is selected to be the standard should always be consistent. It seems to behave randomly especially in regards to the tab  pages.   


I agree. The current behavior is that the cursor moves to the first element when adding records and stays where it is when updating records. Clearly, tab pages are interfering with that behavior. We'll track it down.
  
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Reply #4 - Jun 30th, 2004 at 1:08pm
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I've been working with some forms with tabs and my cursor is staying right where I put it. Can you give me any more clues as to what is making it misbehave for you? Do you have GoTos? ThrowFocuses? OnFormEntry programming? Tabs within Tabs? Etc...
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 30th, 2004 at 7:18pm
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Erika,

Thanks for looking at these issues. I'll run a test on the "jumping cursor" and get back with you.

In the meantime, I have another bug to report thats been haunting me since before 1.0.4 was released.

Edit: To summarize the below, combo box 'choices' won't go away when deleted.

My combo boxes (bound and unbound) seems to "grab" choices that has been deleted from other combo boxes while in designer.

For example. I have 2 combo boxes that are unbound. Somehow, when I go into preview mode and drop down the box, it is filled with LE names from my unbound check boxes from another form (same database)

I went back into edit the form and deleted all the extra choices in the drop down box, saved, then went into preview mode....still there.

Went back into edit the form, this time deleted the unbound LE, saved, exited, previewed. Now ALL the choices that were in the first box (correct and incorrect data) have moved to another combo box on the same form.

Even after deleting all the combo boxes from the form,saving, preview, going back to add 1 combo box (without adding any choices), save, preivew....its full of all the choices I've been trying to delete.

Any workaround for this?

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Reply #6 - Jun 30th, 2004 at 7:21pm
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This is something I fixed several versions ago. Was this form started in an older version?
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 30th, 2004 at 7:23pm
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The form is 'fairly' new, but the db is rather old. Please tell me there is a different solution other than starting from scratch!

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Reply #8 - Jun 30th, 2004 at 7:27pm
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The form is 'fairly' new, but the db is rather old. Please tell me there is a different solution other than starting from scratch!

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Send it to Support and I'll clean it out for you. Please specify which Form has the issue and any passwords needed to open the design (in the message to Support, not here).
  
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Reply #9 - Jul 1st, 2004 at 1:14pm
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Thanks Erika,

I'm sending it now to your attention. No password is needed.

The form is called Photo Viewer, the combo boxes are named Image and Viewer.

Thanks very much,

Steve
edit: the form is called PHoto Editor.
  
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Reply #10 - Jul 1st, 2004 at 2:46pm
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Raymond got my dsr files back really quickly and the combo boxes seem to work fine now.

Thanks for fixing it!

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Reply #11 - Jul 19th, 2004 at 7:15pm
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I made a copy of my application and deleted and renamed some forms and the combo box bug showed up again. (This time, in my new copy, not in the original)

Looks like I got a remedy but not a cure. Will this issue plague me unless I rebuild from scratch?

Also, I was impressed to see that MOST of my programming changed as needed after making a copy of a form. However, some name changes were not done automatically and I had to fix them after the copy. Should I report this as a bug, or is it impossible to make a copy 100% error proof?

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Reply #12 - Jul 19th, 2004 at 7:54pm
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I made a copy of my application and deleted and renamed some forms and the combo box bug showed up again. (This time, in my new copy, not in the original)

Looks like I got a remedy but not a cure. Will this issue plague me unless I rebuild from scratch?


If you copy the one we cleaned out, you should be okay. If you're copying the original corrupted form, then you are also copying the corruption.

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Also, I was impressed to see that MOST of my programming changed as needed after making a copy of a form. However, some name changes were not done automatically and I had to fix them after the copy. Should I report this as a bug, or is it impossible to make a copy 100% error proof?

Thanks,
Steve


We don't (and can't reliably) alter anything in your program itself when copying or renaming. If you rename the form or elements, programming should still appear in the correct events, but if you refer to something by name in your program, we can't "fix" it for you. It would be impossible for us to really know what you intend, so we don't try to mess with it.
  
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Reply #13 - Jul 19th, 2004 at 8:03pm
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Erika, thanks for the response.

The copy I made is from the db that Ray fixed for me. The combo box is picking up some stray answers (other LE names), different from when Ray fixed it. I did not revert back to an old db. Shall I send in the new app?

During the 'copy' process, I noticed that the event names had changed so I assumed all relevant programming had changed also. I was VERY impressed.

Now I know to go look for other changes that may be necessary.

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Reply #14 - Jul 19th, 2004 at 8:07pm
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Erika, thanks for the response.

The copy I made is from the db that Ray fixed for me. The combo box is picking up some stray answers (other LE names), different from when Ray fixed it. I did not revert back to an old db. Shall I send in the new app?


Ray sent you back a dsr, not a db. Is it possible that you went back to the db without Reconciling the cleanup changes?
  
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