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DisableMenubarItem question
Apr 18th, 2011 at 1:48pm
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In Program Application from the Application Property Manager, I am able to disable the  "Save" menu button using DisableMenubarItem("&Save"). My client wants me to also disable the "New" and the "Open" buttons. I'm not having any success using DisableMenubarItem("&New") or DisableMenubarItem("&Open").

Is is possible to disable them and if so how?

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Re: DisableMenubarItem question
Reply #1 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 2:33pm
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You can disable the toolbar buttons using INI file entries.

DISABLE BUTTONBAR BUTTON: SAVE
DISABLE BUTTONBAR BUTTON: OPEN
DISABLE BUTTONBAR BUTTON: NEW
  
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Reply #2 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 2:39pm
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This is a nice feature, but it means we must have access to edit the user's Sesame INI file, correct? Or is this done on the server's INI file?
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 2:41pm
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Thank you Erika.
  
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Re: DisableMenubarItem question
Reply #4 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 2:52pm
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Steve_in_Texas wrote on Apr 18th, 2011 at 2:39pm:
This is a nice feature, but it means we must have access to edit the user's Sesame INI file, correct? Or is this done on the server's INI file?

This is a client-side setting, so you do have to edit the client ini file. If you want all your clients to have the same ini settings, consider using a single ini file in a shared location that you reference using the -ini_file startup switch. That way, you can change one ini file, and all the clients will pick up the changes.
  
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Reply #5 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 3:12pm
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Thanks for that tip, Erika.

This sounds easy enough to implement, but I discovered last week that getting each remote user to change their Sesame Startup icon is not an easy task. (Typos and complacency are inevitable) and this would be a job that I cannot monitor for completion.

Is it possible to do this from the server side, or do I just need to walk each user through this process? Perhaps a Startup switch that will not launch sesame at all, unless it loads all switches exactly right.
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 5:13pm
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Steve_in_Texas wrote on Apr 18th, 2011 at 3:12pm:
Thanks for that tip, Erika.

This sounds easy enough to implement, but I discovered last week that getting each remote user to change their Sesame Startup icon is not an easy task. (Typos and complacency are inevitable) and this would be a job that I cannot monitor for completion.


Sure you can. Set your server to run on new and different ports for a while. Anyone who does not edit their switches won't be able to connect.

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Is it possible to do this from the server side, or do I just need to walk each user through this process? Perhaps a Startup switch that will not launch sesame at all, unless it loads all switches exactly right.


May be easiest to place a correct command line in an email and encourage everyone to cut and paste it out of the email and into the icon's command line - discouraging them from trying to type it in.
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 5:22pm
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Good plan. I'll change the port numbers when I'm ready for the users to change their startup settings.

The last time I asked the users to change their startup commands, Outlook decided to auto-correct the dashes in my command so no one could connect. I'll put the Startup Command into a text file next time.

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Reply #8 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 5:41pm
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You can also set a user parameter (USER PARAM:) in your ini file and check for it in application open. Probably a lot better than changing the ports.

Also, don't use outlook. Find a mail program that doesn't change things for you.
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 6:03pm
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Yes, this does sound better. I'll read up on the USER PARAM option.

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Also, don't use outlook. Find a mail program that doesn't change things for you.


I'm going to have to chew on that one for a while. We're pretty well dug in to Outlook for day-to-day communication.
  
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Reply #10 - Apr 18th, 2011 at 6:38pm
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Steve_in_Texas wrote on Apr 18th, 2011 at 6:03pm:
I'm going to have to chew on that one for a while. We're pretty well dug in to Outlook for day-to-day communication.

Might be lower impact to see if you can change the auto-correct options.
  
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Might be lower impact to see if you can change the auto-correct options.


Yes, and also turn off the 'HTML' feature, as it distorts the code enough to break things.  Undecided

Also, I've learned to make notes when Mark drops a subtle hint. (He mentioned Linux long ago...wish I would have listened better back then.)
  
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Re: DisableMenubarItem question
Reply #12 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 3:24am
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Consider adding code to the Application section that does the following:

1) Read the local Sesame.ini file.
2) Search for the lines you want.
3) If it doesn't find them, add lines to the end of the file, rewrite the file, pop up a MsgBox to the effect "Sesame has been updated.  Click Ok, then restart Sesame."  When they click Ok it exits Sesame.

That will also help as new users are added -- you won't have to check the ini file each time.
  
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Re: DisableMenubarItem question
Reply #13 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 3:48am
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Interesting idea. Thanks Rick.
  
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Re: DisableMenubarItem question
Reply #14 - Apr 19th, 2011 at 5:15pm
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Check out the post about 'Switch' files, especially "Admin Mode".  For something that will automatically change the ini file and force a restart, you'll probably want to add an override.
  
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