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Infinity Senior Member Members Offline Diagonally parked in a parallel dimension Posts: 1290 Location: Massachusetts Joined: May 27^th, 2005	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #15 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 12:58pm	Print Post
	Quote: Another way that might help is to make a tab element, leave it a single tab, eliminate the label, shrink it down to almost the size of your command button, put your command button on the tab, set back fill color to the same as your background, place it on your form exactly were you want the button. To the average user they will see nothing different in or on your form, however when you enter data when you get to that section of the form the tab will get focus NOT the command button (so nothing happens) if you press enter again it goes to the next element without activating the command button. The user will have to use the mouse to select the command button. Whoa, this sounds great! Gonna take a bit of experimenting; I'm not too familiar with tab element sizing and such. Can a tab page be put on another tab page? I'll have to play. Thanks Bob!

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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #16 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 12:59pm	Print Post
	Infinity wrote on Aug 24^th, 2006 at 12:58pm: Can a tab page be put on another tab page? Yes. The Tab Group just has to be smaller than the tab page it is being placed on. -Ray

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Infinity Senior Member Members Offline Diagonally parked in a parallel dimension Posts: 1290 Location: Massachusetts Joined: May 27^th, 2005	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #17 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 1:03pm	Print Post
	I wrote: Quote: Can a tab page be put on another tab page? and of course you can, I just had to try it. OK, back fill is the same color as the mother tab, label is the same, so far so good, blending in nicely. Now...how do I make the shadow go away?

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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #18 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 1:33pm	Print Post
	Set the Box Style of the Tab Group to Flat on the Look Tab. -Ray

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Infinity Senior Member Members Offline Diagonally parked in a parallel dimension Posts: 1290 Location: Massachusetts Joined: May 27^th, 2005	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #19 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 1:37pm	Print Post
	Ah, thanks Ray, that's looking good. I still see a hint of a "tab", but I guess that's a given because it's a tab? Or can that be disguised as well?

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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #20 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 1:45pm	Print Post
	Add a Line to your form Make the Back fill of the line the same as the back fill of the tab Resize the line so that it covers the Tab(bottom) portion of the tab -Ray

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Infinity Senior Member Members Offline Diagonally parked in a parallel dimension Posts: 1290 Location: Massachusetts Joined: May 27^th, 2005	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #21 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 1:46pm	Print Post
	Ah, that's beautiful. You guys are too good. Thanks!

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Infinity Senior Member Members Offline Diagonally parked in a parallel dimension Posts: 1290 Location: Massachusetts Joined: May 27^th, 2005	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #22 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 2:32pm	Print Post
	OK, something new (weird) is happening. I've put smaller tabs on a couple of my tab pages to house the command buttons, and they are successful in preventing accidental firing of the buttons when I key through the larger tab. Yay! But now all the "last" fields on the larger tab, which are programmed to throw focus to the "first" field on the next tab, do not do this. One of these "first" fields has on-element-entry resizing, and that is occurring, but the tab page (view) does not change to it. What am I missing?

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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #23 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 3:21pm	Print Post
	Hello Scott, I just tested this here with a sample app and it is fine. It is possible that it is something in your app preventing the switch of the tabs. Send me the DSR and DDT files to support@lantica.com and I will have a look at them and see if I can't see what it is. -Ray

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Infinity Senior Member Members Offline Diagonally parked in a parallel dimension Posts: 1290 Location: Massachusetts Joined: May 27^th, 2005	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #24 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 3:49pm	Print Post
	Thanks Ray, it's on its way.

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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #25 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 4:28pm	Print Post
	Hello Scott, In a form if you are in the last user-assessable element and you hit Tab, you will not go to another element. This is because there are no elements on the form that can accept focus after the one that you are in. If you set a custom navigation order on any of the groups on a form, all groups on that form will follow the navigation order that is set for them. Since a custom navigation order was set on the form the tabs also follow their custom navigation orders as specified in the "Change Navigation Order" window. What you need to do is put another element(Your 'Mini' Tab Pages) below the last element you want the user to be in, in the Navigation Order. Open Change Navigation Order on your Workorder Form In the "Select an Element group:" drop down choose TabPage Move LE13 and LE14 to the bottom so they appear below DELIVERY_FLOOR Apply Changes You will need to the same to the other tab pages as well. -Ray

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Infinity Senior Member Members Offline Diagonally parked in a parallel dimension Posts: 1290 Location: Massachusetts Joined: May 27^th, 2005	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #26 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 6:29pm	Print Post
	OK, Thanks, I'm trying to absorb that. Several questions: Is there a way to remove all custom navigation? How can I tell what the LE number for a "mini-tab" page is? The LE number for the shadow-blocker-lines shows up in the Property Viewer, but not for the Tabs. I've made the first of the changes you suggested, gonna try it out now. Thanks again.

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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #27 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 6:38pm	Print Post
	In the current version once you set Custom Navigation Order you can not remove it. The ability to remove the Custom Navigation Order is on the list of future enhancements for 2.0 Click on the Tab group Go to the Property Editor Click in the box next to Name Hit F5 **The name displayed is the name of the tab group itself. -Ray

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Infinity Senior Member Members Offline Diagonally parked in a parallel dimension Posts: 1290 Location: Massachusetts Joined: May 27^th, 2005	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #28 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 6:42pm	Print Post
	OK, that's working well for navigation, thanks. But now my shadow-blocking lines are not doing their job. Seems they're appearing behind the tabs. But I'm getting closer! Quote: In the current version once you set Custom Navigation Order you can not remove it. The ability to remove the Custom Navigation Order is on the list of future enhancements for 2.0 OK, I look forward to it. For now I think I'll revert to my backup (w/o custom navigation) and play around with the mini-tabs. Quote: Hit F5 Cool. I had no idea the "name" in the Property box would be different. Does this just apply to tabs (different names from what's showing in the Viewer, I knowI can F5 anyhting to get it's property, I should have thought of that) or do other items have different "real names" than what is shown? Thanks for teaching me a bunch of stuff today, all you guys.

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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: "Click only" command buttons" Reply #29 - Aug 24^th, 2006 at 6:52pm	Print Post
	Try moving the Lines again. -Ray

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