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3 Computer Network setup
Jan 10th, 2004 at 10:10pm
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I bought 3 Sesame licenses.

I have 3 computers networked together in our office.  "Station One" is where we save all of our data.
Station Two and Three each have their own programs but save everything to Station One.  Presently we have Win98 but will upgrade to Win XP in a week or so.

I tried setting up the Client Server using the Multi Usr Installation guide.  But right off the bat I knew something wasn't right.  When I started Sesame on Station One; it didn't Open sesame.  It just opened up "Sesame Server".  So please help.  I need all three machines to be able to open up sesame and work in our databases.

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Re: 3 Computer Network setup
Reply #1 - Jan 10th, 2004 at 11:07pm
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Check your shortcut command lines. If Station One is the server, and you want all three stations to be able to access the server, you should have shortcuts something like this:

Station One (two shortcuts):
sesame -server station_one (this one starts the server)
sesame -client station_one (this one starts the client)

Station Two:
sesame -client station_one

Station Three:
sesame -client station_one

First, you want to start the server on Station One using the shortcut with sesame -server. Then, you should be able to attach with any of the clients.
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 12th, 2004 at 5:34pm
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I followed the instructions on Station One.  I can get the server to come up.  But when start the client it says first that it cannot connect to the server.  Then after you click on that it comes up saying there are too many clients.
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 12th, 2004 at 5:52pm
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When you say the server is named "Station One" is that literal? In other words, does your computer's name have a space in it?
  
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Reply #4 - Jan 12th, 2004 at 7:09pm
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When I look on network neightborhood....it says "Station One" with a space.

I entered it in the shortcut

sesame.exe -client Station_One
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 12th, 2004 at 8:20pm
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The space in the name is probably the problem. Putting an underscore in the name won't help. The machine name passed to Sesame must be the actual machine name. You could, if you know you are not using DHCP just use the IP address of the machine in place of its name:

sesame -client 192.168.0.18

(the number above is just an example, you would have to find out the IP address for your machine).

A more long term solution is to use a "legal" TCP/IP machine name. Unfortunately that would mean having to actually rename the machine. You may be able to get around this by putting the machine name in double quotes:

sesame -client "Station One"

Or you can put an entry (without spaces: "StationOne") in your hosts file or lmhosts file and turn on lmhosts lookup in the TCP/IP dialog in your network setup. You can only do this if you are not using DHCP.
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 12th, 2004 at 8:46pm
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I put "Station One" in quotes.  That worked.  1 step made.  But now...I can only get 1 client to open Sesame at a time.  When I try to add another client, from another machine, it says "too many clients"  I copied the license file from the disk to the sesame folder on the server.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 12th, 2004 at 9:24pm
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If you are using icons and have altered the "target" property, also make sure you have also set the "Start In" property to the directory where the license file resides, usually C:\Sesame.

Typically:

Target: C:\Sesame\Program\sesame.exe -server "Station One"
Start In: C:\Sesame

If you are running from the command line, make sure the license file is in C:\Sesame, then

C:
cd \Sesame
Program\sesame -server "Station One"
  
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Re: 3 Computer Network setup
Reply #8 - Jan 12th, 2004 at 9:53pm
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Station One acting as server
Station Two  looks at Station One has drive E:
Station Three  looks at Station One has Drive E:

Shortcut for Station One
Target:
C:\Sesame\Program\sesame.exe -client "Station One"
Start in:
C:\Sesame

Shortcut for Station Two
Target:
C:\Sesame\Program\sesame.exe -client "Station One"
Start in:
E:\Sesame

When Station One is running the client; Station Two gets error "too many clients
  
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Re: 3 Computer Network setup
Reply #9 - Jan 12th, 2004 at 10:58pm
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Station One acting as server
Station Two  looks at Station One has drive E:
Station Three  looks at Station One has Drive E:

Shortcut for Station One
Target:
C:\Sesame\Program\sesame.exe -client "Station One"
Start in:
C:\Sesame

Shortcut for Station Two
Target:
C:\Sesame\Program\sesame.exe -client "Station One"
Start in:
E:\Sesame

When Station One is running the client; Station Two gets error "too many clients



A couple of things to look at. The shortcut for Station Two should probably not have its Start In set to E:\Sesame. Set it instead to C:\Sesame on Station Two. The only machine that needs the license file is Station One and it needs to be in C:\Sesame on Station One. And lastly, make sure you start the server before you start any of the clients.

Second, go ahead and email me (laser@HammerVE.com) a copy of your license file. I will check it out and notify customer support if I see anything wrong. Send it as an attachment.
  
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Re: 3 Computer Network setup
Reply #10 - Jan 12th, 2004 at 11:03pm
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I have tried it both ways.

With the "start in" referring to C: and E:
neither works.

Yes, I always start the server first.
Each of the 3 clients work alone, but if you start another client you get that error message.  "too many clients.
  
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Re: 3 Computer Network setup
Reply #11 - Jan 13th, 2004 at 8:11pm
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Mark....
Now that we have all three machines working.  Station Two that I mentioned brings up the dial up box when you open Sesame.....it also has another problem....When you go to Application Utilities; Redesign current Application....it brings up the dial up box...then I hit cancel...then it brings up two error messages cannot connect to server; then too many clients

(BTW, if I'm already connected to Internet; the dial up box doesn't pop up but it still gives me the same error message.) ???
  
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Re: 3 Computer Network setup
Reply #12 - Jan 13th, 2004 at 8:25pm
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The Designer would be an additional client. If all three workstations are connected, you would need to shut down the Sesame client, and open Designer standalone, if you need to work on your design client/server.

The dial-up message is Windows deciding that it needs to connect to the Internet for you, just in case.

You may be able to stop this by:
1. Open Internet Explorer.
2. From the Tools menu, choose Internet Options.
3. Click the Connections tab
4. Under the dialup settings, you should see radio buttons giving you the option of "Never dial a connection".

Selecting this should stop the popups, but it will also stop other programs from automatically dialing the Internet.
  
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Re: 3 Computer Network setup
Reply #13 - Jan 13th, 2004 at 8:59pm
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Dial up problem fixed.

I tested all machines.  With only 1 copy of Sesame open on the network and no copies of Designer open, I still get the same errors server has failed and too many clients.

New problem:
Two machines were in the same form/db searching...the form became locked....the first machine had to exit...is that correct?
  
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Re: 3 Computer Network setup
Reply #14 - Jan 13th, 2004 at 9:22pm
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Dial up problem fixed.

I tested all machines.  With only 1 copy of Sesame open on the network and no copies of Designer open, I still get the same errors server has failed and too many clients.

We'll check into it.

Quote:
New problem:
Two machines were in the same form/db searching...the form became locked....the first machine had to exit...is that correct?

If they both were looking at the same record, the person who got the record second would see it as locked, because someone else had it first. If either person moves off that record (F10, F9, Esc, etc.), the form should unlock.
  
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