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proudpoppy Full Member Members Offline Do What ?? Posts: 420 Location: South Carolina Joined: Apr 7^th, 2004	"Application unlocked while running" message Sep 28^th, 2007 at 4:26pm	Print Post
	I'm getting the following after a design change. This application has been unlocked while running. This application will no longer save changes to the application files. It is recommended you close this application at once. Then Sesame Locks up, Have to shut it down using task manager.


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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: Sesame Crashing Reply #1 - Sep 28^th, 2007 at 4:33pm	Print Post
	Is this in SDesigner or in Sesame? When is the last time you unlocked the files? Are you running Client/Server or Standalone? Are you testing functions in Preview mode that contain X commands? -Ray

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proudpoppy Full Member Members Offline Do What ?? Posts: 420 Location: South Carolina Joined: Apr 7^th, 2004	Re: Sesame Crashing Reply #2 - Sep 28^th, 2007 at 5:01pm	Print Post
	Quote: Is this in SDesigner or in Sesame? Sesame When is the last time you unlocked the files? This morning after a power problem Are you running Client/Server or Standalone? client/server Are you testing functions in Preview mode that contain X commands? no -Ray


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proudpoppy Full Member Members Offline Do What ?? Posts: 420 Location: South Carolina Joined: Apr 7^th, 2004	Re: Application unlocked while running message Reply #3 - Sep 28^th, 2007 at 5:04pm	Print Post
	Early this morning one of my users using the Server/Client machine had her foot hit the off button on the upc backup, the file would not open afterward and I had to unlock it, at lunch I made a security change and reconciled �and thats when it started. I may have it worked out I deleted the db. and dat files and saved as a new application and it opened back up, but I'm afraid to try another reconcile?
	« Last Edit: Sep 28^th, 2007 at 7:06pm by proudpoppy »

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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: "Application unlocked while running" message Reply #4 - Sep 28^th, 2007 at 5:50pm	Print Post
	Was the DB file loaded on the Sesame Server when you did the Reconcile? -Ray

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proudpoppy Full Member Members Offline Do What ?? Posts: 420 Location: South Carolina Joined: Apr 7^th, 2004	Re: "Application unlocked while running" message Reply #5 - Sep 28^th, 2007 at 7:05pm	Print Post
	No I shutdown the server before I do any design changes. The power failure was like partial a few seconds blink. I tried to log sesame client back on but it said the database was locked, so I unlocked it and all was o.k. until the reconcile, I make it a habit to shutdown the server before backing up or any design changes. The only thing that concerns me is concealed damage to the dat file or db file that might show up later. Its better to lose one days work than it is to show up in two weeks or more, I backup daily.


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Carl Underwood Senior Member Members Offline Posts: 1350 Location: New Hampshire Joined: Mar 11^th, 2003	Re: "Application unlocked while running" message Reply #6 - Sep 29^th, 2007 at 6:22am	Print Post
	proudpoppy wrote on Sep 28^th, 2007 at 4:26pm: I'm getting the following after a design change. This application has been unlocked while running. This application will no longer save changes to the application files. It is recommended you close this application at once. Then Sesame Locks up, Have to shut it down using task manager. � I had the same thing happen tonight. I suspect it was because the application that I was reconciling (App1) had been the target of an XLU for another Sesame session running a different app (App2). App2 was still open when I reconciled App1. They were both being run standalone, but I'm thinking that App2 still had App1 open in memory, similar to how Sesame Server will retain apps in an "open" condition if they were used for an XLU. Does that sound possible, Ray?

	Carl Underwood CDU Computer Consulting LLC Epsom, New Hampshire
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Hammer YaBB Administrator Lanticans Offline Fire bad. Tree pretty. Posts: 3436 Location: Ohio Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2002	Re: "Application unlocked while running" message Reply #7 - Sep 29^th, 2007 at 12:28pm	Print Post
	That's a good suggestion, Carl. Only, he says he shut down the server, which would have cleared that. @ProudPoppy: Did you have another Sesame server running? Did you test any X-commands in Preview mode?

	- Hammer The plural of anecdote is not data.
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Carl Underwood Senior Member Members Offline Posts: 1350 Location: New Hampshire Joined: Mar 11^th, 2003	Re: "Application unlocked while running" message Reply #8 - Sep 29^th, 2007 at 1:17pm	Print Post
	Erika, I was more asking if that was why I had that error message.

	Carl Underwood CDU Computer Consulting LLC Epsom, New Hampshire
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Hammer YaBB Administrator Lanticans Offline Fire bad. Tree pretty. Posts: 3436 Location: Ohio Joined: Nov 22^nd, 2002	Re: "Application unlocked while running" message Reply #9 - Sep 29^th, 2007 at 1:20pm	Print Post
	Quote: Erika, I was more asking if that was why I had that error message. Probably. I've seen it too.

	- Hammer The plural of anecdote is not data.
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proudpoppy Full Member Members Offline Do What ?? Posts: 420 Location: South Carolina Joined: Apr 7^th, 2004	Re: "Application unlocked while running" message Reply #10 - Sep 29^th, 2007 at 4:16pm	Print Post
	I was looking through records in search/update mode when the power problem happened, I don't know what the other user was doing at the time, we both tried to load the appl back but the message came up it was locked, after unlocking the application we used it without incident until dinner time when I shutdown the server and made the security change and reconciled, when I loaded the application in Sesame it got to 99% and then the message came up and it locked up. I only have one Sesame server running, I deleted the db & dat files and saved as a new application, going to make some more changes today and do another reconcile, I hope it goes o.k. We have "skips" in the power almost daily and I felt the problem happened at that time, I'll see about getting a new ups next week and fix it so a foot won't cut it off, I �remember having a utility in QA and paradox to fix similiar problems and was wondering if Sesame could use one?


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proudpoppy Full Member Members Offline Do What ?? Posts: 420 Location: South Carolina Joined: Apr 7^th, 2004	Re: "Application unlocked while running" message Reply #11 - Sep 29^th, 2007 at 4:19pm	Print Post
	It is possible that some X-commands ran in preview mode, I did look at a record or two in preview mode before I reconciled.


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proudpoppy Full Member Members Offline Do What ?? Posts: 420 Location: South Carolina Joined: Apr 7^th, 2004	Re: "Application unlocked while running" message Reply #12 - Oct 1^st, 2007 at 3:49pm	Print Post
	Made design changes and reconciled over the weekend, and so far no problems this morning, no power blimps this morning so far.


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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: "Application unlocked while running" message Reply #13 - Oct 1^st, 2007 at 3:55pm	Print Post
	proudpoppy wrote on Sep 29^th, 2007 at 4:19pm: It is possible that some X-commands ran in preview mode, I did look at a record or two in preview mode before I reconciled. This could cause it if the X commands use the name of the DB file rather than just @FN and Sdesigner was still open when the Sesame Server was started back up and the DB file was loaded. -Ray

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Ray the Reaper Global Moderator Members Lantica Support Offline The One & The Only Posts: 2480 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2003	Re: "Application unlocked while running" message Reply #14 - Oct 2^nd, 2007 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	Quote: I had the same thing happen tonight. I suspect it was because the application that I was reconciling (App1) had been the target of an XLU for another Sesame session running a different app (App2). App2 was still open when I reconciled App1. They were both being run standalone, but I'm thinking that App2 still had App1 open in memory, similar to how Sesame Server will retain apps in an "open" condition if they were used for an XLU. Does that sound possible, Ray? Hello Carl, I just now saw your post, and Yes that is more than likely what you had happened. Sesame Standalone is pretty much just the Server and the Client rolled into one so it will behave pretty close to the same when it comes to file loading and X commands. -Ray

	Raymond Yoxall Consulting ray.yoxall@gmail.com ryoxall@lantica.com Sesame Applications, Design and Support
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