Quote:But there is still no answer for the ability to provide demo applications. I would like to be able to post applications on my web site for users to try. I want to be able to leave someone a copy of work that has been done over 30 days ago. I do not understand why it is necessary to limit the demo ability to something created in the past 30 days.
Because we felt it was better for most users than letting their applications last forever, but having Sesame itself only work for 30 days. The answer, as I said earlier, is for you to contact us. If you are a developer in this situation, we may be able to help you out.
Quote:I guess I can create a new blank database and then merge my old database into it? Will that work? If Yes, then the 30 days since created limitation can easily be overcome, but it puts an unncecssary burden on those of us who want to distribute samples of what Sesame can do.
We don't agree that it is unnecessary. If we completely lift all trial version limits, then we are basically handing out free software. If we do this, we won't be around to support those of you who have purchased Sesame because we will all have had to go out and get paying jobs.
This only affects those in a very specific case of wanting to distribute prebuilt work to someone who only has the trial version of Sesame more than a month after that work has been created. This is an extremely small percentage of our user base. If you are in that situation, we are willing to discuss it with you and see if we can help you out.
Quote:We have been asking for sample applications, like NorthWind so that we can help demo and sell Sesame.
Which Raymond has been working hard on building. It's coming along nicely. The first one will not be as expansive as NorthWind because we want people to be able to understand what it does and how it works. We have had requests for:
1. Small non-practical apps that tightly demonstrate particular techniques
2. Simple working apps that can be picked apart for learning purposes
3. Large working applications that can be used to demonstrate capabilites
No one demo application will satisfy all these requirements at once. We are working on providing you with learning and demo materials on an ongoing basis.
Quote:And we end up with hangman as a demo application. That is nice for the programmer to see how to use arrays, but do I really want to show a business manager HangMan to show that he can combine his Contact Manager, Sales, Inventory, Purchasing, Shipping/Receiving together. That he can send emails, faxes, open up Outlook, etc. all from within his Sesame application?
You have Hangman as one of several applications which do not represent the "end" of what we intend to provide. This is the second time that we've been slapped on this Forum for making Hangman. Hangman is a fun little app that neatly demonstrates the use of several techniques, took only a few hours to put together, and, most importantly to us, satisifed the request of a member of this Forum. We take the requests of individual users as seriously as we take the requests of consultants, even if we don't stand to make as much money off of them. We try not to make "how much cash are you worth to us" a criteria for whether we listen to what you have to say.
Quote:The sample databases do not provide the ability to show off an integrated package, but we can do that.
You have noted that the Sample databases have been created especially for that purpose. Can you provide us with the tools to do the same thing. The best thing you could have is sample Sesame applications floating everywhere over the web that are only good for 30 days, but they will be good to use. This should help create the demand for the full working version.
We agree. If someone contacts us and give us an opportunity to confirm that that is indeed what they are doing, we will help them to do it. We are not willing, for obvious reasons, to simply hand out a utility that allows apps to be reset indefinitely, just as we are not willing to hand out our license generator.
Quote:Thanks for listening.
You're welcome. We are listening. Contact us, and we will help you out with this.